09.28.14

It’s a “states rights” thing

Posted in WhiteManistan at 2:44 pm by George Smith

Reuters canoes deep into the swamps of Dixie WhiteManistan to gather opinions on the yen for secession: Only 1 in 4 support it, but the dead-enders are united.

And confused, as always, somehow believing that about half of Scotland voting to leave the United Kingdom was somehow like what precipitated the Civil War and Cliven Bundy defying the Bureau of Land Management.

The Scottish National Party, of course, being so much like the 2014 neo-Confederacy in its support for the labor of the lower and middle classes.

From Reuters:

The failed Scottish vote to pull out from the United Kingdom stirred secessionist hopes for some in the United States, where almost a quarter of people are open to their states leaving the union, a new Reuters/Ipsos poll found.

Some 23.9 percent of Americans polled from Aug. 23 through Sept. 16 said they strongly supported or tended to support the idea of their state breaking away …

Ergo, interview the old white heevahava from the birthplace of sedition:

“I don’t think it makes a whole lot of difference anymore which political party is running things. Nothing gets done,” said Roy Gustafson, 61, of Camden, South Carolina, who lives on disability payments. “The state would be better off handling things on its own.”

Why does nothing get done? Couldn’t be about one party and its base having a world view like ol’ Jefferson Davis’, could it?

OK, Reuters, ask another!

“Texas has everything we need. We have the manufacturing, we have the oil, and we don’t need them,” said Mark Denny, a 59-year-old retiree living outside Dallas on disability payments.

Denny, a Republican, had cheered on the Scottish independence movement.

“I have totally, completely lost faith in the federal government, the people running it, whether Republican, Democrat, independent, whatever …”

Tally: Two fed up old guys in the Old South, both on disability.

I’m one year younger than Mr. Denny. I’m not on disability or retired although one might say I was involuntarily detached from the economy.

Then, icing on the cake, a “Democrat” in Texas, also old:

“When I say secede, I’m not like … Charlton Heston with my gun up in the air, ‘my cold dead hands.’ It’s more like – we could do it if we had to,” said [Lila Guzman], 62. “But the first option is, golly, get it back on the right track. Not all is lost. But there might come a point that we say, ‘Hey, y’all, we’re dusting our hands and we’re moving on.'”

Scottish independence, just like the wish for liberty and effective government in the old states of the Confederacy.

Y’all, I do smell horse-piss; at which my nose is in great indignation!

3 Comments

  1. Ted Jr. said,

    September 29, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    >Why does nothing get done? Couldn’t be about one party and its base having >a world view like ol’ Jefferson Davis’, could it?

    He does have a valid point to an extent on this one issue. The banksters who have total control of the political process use the primaries quite effectively to ensure that only nearly identical (harmless) viewpoints are ultimately on offer come ballot day.

    So to that extent nothing really does get done. After the stage managed pseudo issues are presented for the electorate to decide on, then the elected official does what his real backers want him to do, and not really much else.

    The bigger problem is the delusional viewpoint that secession, change of system or change of faces will somehow make their lives better. That part is played on by the political process for its survival.

  2. George Smith said,

    September 30, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    Yeah, in a sense he does. But he also probably voted for the people who have guaranteed that nothing has been or can be done.

    Bernie Sanders talks quite a bit about the problem with the Democratic Party, point being that it is no longer a populist party, but a centrist one captured by money. Which is pretty much absolutely true.

    We’re seeing attempts to capture all the state pols in California now. The Republican Party so alienated everyone here that not one of them now holds any seat of importance in the state government or in the legislature. So big business, which contributed to them, has now migrated to buying Democrats. It remains to be seen how successful this will be in the long run.

  3. Ted Jr. said,

    September 30, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    >Bernie Sanders talks quite a bit about the problem with the Democratic Party

    An honest man, by politician’s standards. I used to hear him once a week on that tool Hartmann’s show and he did make a lot of sense, even if you weren’t in agreement with his views, they were at least well thought out.

    >So big business, which contributed to them, has now migrated to buying >Democrats. It remains to be seen how successful this will be in the long >run.

    Worked ok for Clinton.

    Have to admit though, one entrenched political party is bad for any jurisdiction. The system works best with a “legitimate” opposition.
    Something the whole of USA has lacked for a very long time.

    Segues right back into the original article, doesn’t it?