04.08.10

Amusing Fuhrers — still more

Posted in Extremism, Rock 'n' Roll at 9:38 am by George Smith

Today the Allentown Morning Call newspaper got around to writing up a story on Poker Face and the Hutaree.

And the reason this happened was because of posts on DD blog over the past week or so. (See here and here and here.)

But the Morning Call still doesn’t quite put its finger on the matter. To see why, we go to the last quotes in the piece, where reporter John J. Moser questions Poker Face’s Paul Topete about his website.

But Poker Face also has raised eyebrows with a forum on its Web site that includes such topics as the authenticity of the Holocaust, Jewish control of the media and repatriating illegal immigrants.

”We most certainly do not deny the Holocaust,” Topete said. ”To suggest that is absurd. The reason this section of our forum exists is because people have been imprisoned for questioning details regarding this horrific slaughter of mankind.”

That story is here.

In the parlance, this is called being deceptive. Alert readers will notice the awkward mental slip-up in the phrase ‘slaughter of mankind,’ since the Holocaust, to most sane people, specifically means Nazi Germany’s extermination campaign against the Jews. But we’ll get back to the hows and whys of deceptive practice in a minute.

Now, to the newspaper’s role in informing society.

A better story might have actually stated the title or words Poker Face uses to describe the Holocaust. That would be ‘Holohaux,’ ‘Holohoax’ or other variations on the same.

The ‘Holohoax’ is explained by a Holocaust denier site here.

Sample quote:

The Zionist Mafia’s conspiracy theory, of a secret plot involving “gas chambers” to murder six million Jews and five million undesirables and turn them into soap and lampshades, has proved immensely lucrative for them, but is now collapsing before their eyes

World Zionism’s problem is that none of their claims of “gas chambers” and an “extermination program” can hold up unless one postulates wholesale revision of the laws of physics, chemistry, biology, mathematics, logic, and / or psychology.

The Web has many such sites. Another typical example is here. It described Fred Leuchter, the weird man who insisted the gas chambers were not gas chambers. The arthouse documentary, Mr. Death, was based upon his self-destructive pursuit of this belief.

Now, back to Poker Face.

When Topete speaks of questioning the details of the Holocaust and people who have been imprisoned for such, he is speaking of specific individuals listed in his site’s chats. One of them is Ernst Zundel, an infamous Holocaust denier.

The Southern Poverty Law Center describes Zundel in this manner:

German-born Ernst Zundel came to prominence in the world of Holocaust denial, or what he prefers to call historical “revisionism,” in the 1980s, when his Samisdat Publishing company began distributing propaganda like a “Did 6 Million Really Die?” pamphlet and Zundel’s own book, The Hitler We Loved and Why. By then a non-citizen resident of Canada (he moved there in 1958), Zundel’s repeated attempts at gaining citizenship in Canada were denied as he was decried by both the Canadian and German governments for his incitement of racial hatred. After several Canadian court battles over the contents of the material he distributed, he was deported in 2005 back to Germany, where he was later tried and convicted for Holocaust denial and inciting racial hatred.

On the Poker Face website, one permanent post reads:

The total absurdity in the first place for Ernst being locked up for anytime is crazy.

Its like telling JEWS that my feelings are hurt and they must go to jail becvause they dont believe in Christ, In His Resurrection, and His granting of eternal life to us. But no JEW goes to jail for believing or Not.

So why should ANYONE else goto jail because they choose not to believe in the fantasy fairy tale called the holohaux? Look into CD Jackson + Syke Troops and Buchenwald, and understand from the very BEGINNING THE HOLOHAUX WAS A CREATED FABRICATION by Jews for the sole purpose of giving Israel legitimacy. period.

Did some Jews die in work camps. Yes, so did many other peopls and races. But they were work camps. Not extermination centers.

Sorry Jews, your leaders have LIED to you, and preach to you your DEATH CULTURE you live in day in and day out.

A snapshot DD took of it is here. (For the original, click here.)

Here is more of Poker Face’s rationale:

So, typically, if by observation of Poker Face’s website, when its leader says he has forums which talk about people questioning the details of the Holocaust, in practice this just means stories about Holocaust deniers, all of whom are given supportive treatment. Accompanied by vitriolic denunciations of ‘jews’ and ‘zionazis’.

Naturally, free speech makes this perfectly OK in the US of A. However, what others think of it and how it illumines your character are other matters entirely.

Here, for example, is another post on how ‘Holocaust Hoaxer’ Simon Wiesenthal has been exposed for his ‘lies.’

Or, there’s this fascinating view — also in a prominently placed post on the Poker Face website — of what the Theresienstadt concentration camp really was:

From a Fan … and I’d like to draw my Czech friends and relatives to the word I put in red, Theresienstadt. I had sent an email some time ago about Theresienstadt and got some flack about it from the delusional crybabies who were drilled by the Communists to believe in
the Hoax. Theresienstadt was an old German fortress that was converted into a village for elderly Jews who were too feeble to be sent to work camps. I can no longer find the original info I sent and the links I quickly gleaned to add to this email were all genocide propaganda sites. Jewish “scholars” have plagiarized each other put up thousands of almost identical sites. There is now an Arbeit Macht Frei on its gate, though I highly doubt it was there during the war as Theresienstadt was not a work camp.

The ‘genocide propaganda site’ and ‘communist delusional crybabies’ at the US Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, DC describe it this way:

Despite all the efforts of the Council of Jewish Elders and the camp-ghetto inhabitants to make the best of an atrocious situation, living conditions in the ghetto with respect to food supply, medicine, maintenance of residential structures, provision of basic services, and overpopulation in a limited space caused a death rate in the camp-ghetto comparable to that in Reich concentration camps like Dachau and Buchenwald. In 1942, the death rate within the ghetto accelerated so dramatically that the Germans built — to the south of the ghetto — a crematorium capable of handling almost 200 bodies a day.

Here is another screed which touches upon one of Poker Face’s favorite topics — how neo-Nazis aren’t always protected by rights to free speech in Europe, to the band’s great dismay:

The hollercaustics are crying for blood now over a musician who spreads the truth about their money making scam. It will be awhile before Poker Face tours Europe.

Europe is the laughing stock of the world, where they pontific how free they are, becayuse they will print cartoons that defame Mohammed. Not that I give a crap about Mohamed, but tit for tat I say. These same freedom screeing bastards WOULD NEVER PRINT A TRUTHFUL HOAX-A-SHOAH cartoon. The editors know they would get their ass canned immediately.

Freedom of thought, and speech goes out the window, when it comes to the mythology of the cult of holohauxianity.

People of the world. Wake the fuck up. As long as one brother is in jail for his thoughts or speech, while committing no crime against person or property, THEN WE ARE ALL IN FUCKING TROUBLE, because it will come to your country soon enough.

Talk about a Orwellian society. Blaspheme Christ, or Dont believe in Christ, collect 200$ and go ahead… Point out one of a million lies about the holohaux, and JAIL is there waiting for you. When did someones hurt feelings trump REAL Law.

Indeed, one could spend the entire day sifting Poker Face’s website for ‘information’ on the ‘myths’ of the gas chambers and 9/11, that Benjamin Netanyahu ‘planned 9/11,’ and so forth.

So when John. J. Moser writes that “Poker Face also has raised eyebrows” it’s a bit of an understatement.

Many many reasonable people, upon viewing the material outlined here, would find Poker Face’s political views astonishingly offensive, ragingly anti-Semitic and screwed-up to the max.

To call it eyebrow raising doesn’t quite do it justice.

1 Comment

  1. Montana said,

    April 8, 2010 at 6:22 pm

    I like that they questioned for “Public Defenders??? (and they thought they could bring down our government), undercover FBI agent, sweet. Since their inception the Teaparty crowd (not a movement since they do have the numbers or clout) because they are haters not debaters or as others have dubbed them screamers not dreamers. The simpleton Tea baggers are the same whiners that were crying when the McCain/Bailin ticket lost. Now that their yelling and screaming disastrous to stop the shape care debate and the bill from passing they are crying again. Lets face it the Republicans had eight years to deal with shape care, immigration, climate change and fiscal oversight and governance and they disastrous. The Republicans are excellent at starting wars (two in eight years, with stout contracts to friends of Cheney/Bush) but not at winning wars as seen by the long-lasting line of body bags that keep coming home. Instead of participating in the shape care debate of thoughts the Republicans party turned inward to your ancient fashion obstructionist party. In my opinion the Republican Waterloo loss was caused by the party allowing a small parts (but very loud) of the republican party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards??? to take over their party. I will admit that this fringe is very excellent at playing “Follow the Leader??? by listening to their dullard leaders, Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush, Savage, Sarah Bailin, Orly Taitz, Victoria Jackson, Michele Bachmann and the rest of the Blowhards and acting as ill plotted robots (they have already acted against doctors that perform abortions). The Teaparty crowd reckon they can scare, intimidate and break down others to go along with them by observations like “This time we came unarmed???, let me tell you a touch not all ex-military join the fringe militia crazies who don’t pay taxes and run around with face paint in the parks playing commando, the majority are mature and know that the world is more complicated and grey than the black and white that these simpleton make it out to be and that my friend is the point. The world is complicated and presidents like Hamiliton, Lincoln, and Roosevelt judge that we should use government a small to increase social mobility, now its about dancing around the aver of government is the problem. The sainted Reagan passed the largest tax increase in American history and as a result federal employment increased, but facts are lost when mired in mysticism and superstition. Although some Republicans are trying to distant themselves from this fringe most of them, having no game plot/ vision for our country, are just going along and fanning the flames. For a party that gave us Abraham Lincoln, it is tragic that the ranks are filled with too many unfilled suits. But they now aver they have changed, come on, what sucker is going to judge that? All I can say to you is dredge up Waterloo.